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What is a true "G" chord?
Topic Started: Nov 17 2008, 11:47 PM (641 Views)
Angus old
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Man from the silver mountain.

I have always learned and played it with three fingers however i have seen a differant "G" which incorporates a 4th finger on the "b" string.

Which is correct 3 or 4 fingers?
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there are many different fingerings for any chord as long as the chord contains the proper notes its correct.
and now for something completely different
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Cheers mate,

This is the first time that i have seen this.

I will stick to the version that i know. Posted Image
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Artheus
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Hello :)

A G chord consits of fallowing notes:

Major: G(1st step) H(3rd step) D(5th step)
Minor: G(1st step) A sharp (3rd step) D(5th step)

You need those 3 notes in your chord, apart from the you add octavs.

a Major G chord, the most common one; E6 3rd, A5 2nd, D4 open, G3 open, H2 open, E1 3rd -for guitar purpose, involves fallowing notes: G, H, D, G, H, G

you can play a cord in different combinaions; 1st, 3rd 5th step or 3rd, 5th, 1st ... etc.

have fun ;)
Edited by Artheus, Nov 20 2008, 01:39 PM.
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H?

That's really confusing, and i know what makes up a G chord. It certainly isn't the note H. Unless someone has recently re written music theory without telling me.
Edited by voodoorider, Nov 19 2008, 03:19 PM.
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H=B (US's got way and so does Europe)


Well, NO. No need to rewrite music... Understand it, yes.
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That's really confusing, and i know what makes up a G chord. It certainly isn't the note H. Unless someone has recently re written music theory without telling me.

Major G scale consists of: G, A, H, C, D, E, F#, G. PERIOD. A chord is a combination of 1st, 3rd and 5th note of the appropriate scale. PERIOD. ...so: G, H and D makes the G chord. That is most obvious... and simple. Playing a piano one will use those notes. With guitar, as you use all the strings, you get each note more then onece... That's it. Simple. Its not about knowing where to put your finger but to know what you are ding.



It cam really help and it's worth spending some time with chord and applicable scales as it will have a great impact on improvisation and writing your own stuff.

Best of luck, Artheus ;)
Edited by Artheus, Nov 20 2008, 03:10 PM.
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Nov 20 2008, 03:01 PM

Well, NO. No need to rewrite music... Understand it, yes.
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That's really confusing, and i know what makes up a G chord. It certainly isn't the note H. Unless someone has recently re written music theory without telling me.

Major G scale consists of: G, A, H, C, D, E, F#, G. PERIOD. A chord is a combination of 1st, 3rd and 5th note of the appropriate scale.* PERIOD. ...so: G, H and D. That is most obvious... and simple. Playing a piano one will use those notes. With guitar, as you use all the strings, you get each note more then onece... That's it. Simple. Its not about knowing where to put your finger but to know what you are ding.

* but you can

It cam really help and it's worth spending some time with chord and applicable scales as it will have a great impact on improvisation and writing your own stuff.

Best of luck, Artheus ;)
dude there is no H, unless you've found the lost note and the lost chord.
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Posted Image Here is an example of what i am on about.

I will continue to play the chord on the left.
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the one on the left is a straight G chord. the other one is a G chord however its like a G7th or something like that i'm not the king of theory and don't have a chord book handy. there are many chord forms beyond basic chords. so to answer your original ? they are both G chords, use whatever form that works for you. down the road you'll find that the ohter chord forms have their uses as they have slightly different voiceings. none of them have an H though.
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In fact these are both ordinary G chords.

The one on the left is: G, H(B), D, G, H, G and
The one on the right is: G, H(B), D, G, D, G

these are both major. The only difference is that the one the right uses a fourth between 1st and 2nd string rather than a sixth, that gives that chord slightly brighter feel, and thats really it.

By the way. THER IS H (or B whatever) note(s) in G chord. (twice - left picture, once - right picture)

for example 2nd fret on A strin... Simply: A (open strin), A sharp (1st fret), H (2nd fret...

So simple... and I do know the theory having spend years in music school, doing piano and guitar.

Best of luck,
Edited by Artheus, Nov 21 2008, 01:13 AM.
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Artheus, and please anyone correct me if I'm wrong, like Monwobobbo said, there IS NO H! Not in the UK or the US, you're from the UK anyway so why would you use H?? In 10 years playing i have never heard an American or English guitarist or any music book use the note H Period. You aren't among people that don't know this stuff man.
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That is actually a habit my German guitar theacher passed on me. Anyway, weather You call it H or , it makes no difference. -and yes I thought most people will know that some musicians would call it H. It's just the fact that classicly, it would be called H in Europe.
... let's stick with B if it causes so much confusion

So if you bear in mind that H is B, all the information I have subbmited is correct.

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Edited by Artheus, Nov 21 2008, 12:29 PM.
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sorry buddy but you are still incorrect. the 2 chords are different. in order for them to be the same all the notes have to be the same, they are not. yes they are both G chords but the one on the right has two Ds instead of 2 Bs (i've never heard of H before here in america) so they are slightly different.
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Artheus, to be honest you're talking out of your backside. It's irrelevant to bare in mind that H is B.. because H is not B no matter how you want to try and justify it. And now it's a German guitar teacher that taught you this? He shouldn't be a tutor, he doesn't teach correctly. And I'm in Europe, it's not called H it never has been and never will be.

The 3 finger version of the chord has a double 3rd.
The 4 finger version has a double 5th and sounds more full and sweet.

What this means is the G already contains a 3rd and a 5th, playing one way creates a second 3rd and playing the other creates a second 5th.

They are just alternate voicings which are different technically, but theoretically are the same. They may have different names, i don't know them I'm afraid.
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